俄罗斯普京宣布新冠疫苗已经开始量产,如果中国去进口,你愿意去打吗?

    大概几天前吧,普京宣布俄罗斯已经率先研发出了新冠疫苗,且他让其女儿做了疫苗测试,据他自己说情况良好且有效。我看到最新的消息好像是说该疫苗可免疫的有效期为2年。具体情况就不在这里多说,此议题只是想让大家交流一下彼此的看法,或许这对大家今后的疫苗选择有一点参考意义。

选择答案:

1、如果中国进口俄罗斯疫苗,我愿意去打他们的疫苗(付费)。

2、俄罗斯的疫苗,不可信,绝对不做小白鼠。

3、坐等中国自己研发的疫苗(付费/免费)。

4、坐等美国或德国等发达国家疫苗,只打进口的(付费)。

5、请自行描述看法。(但请勿涉及政治言论,就事论事即可,也不要说脏话)

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larry 【新手级】 - I'm a network engineer that currently lives in China.

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Russian Vaccines? Well here's my advice for that. "Stay the hell away from any so called Covid-19 vaccines from any nations/companies for at least another year"

For vaccines to be manufactured and distributed all need go through 3 phases.
First preclinical phase
The phase only tests on the human/animal cells to figure out the whether the vaccine will cause any harms
Then it's the Human trial phase
This phase of trial of 3 phases on its own
Phase 1 is to test whether the vaccine can cause any harms to actual humans. In this phase, around 30 - 50 volunteers/scientist themselves will be given this vaccine. This is the most dangerous phase of the human trial, since there is 0 guarantees that you'll make it out this testing alive. Hence why all of the volunteers are paid enormous amount of cash front.

Phase 2 is to test whether the vaccine actually works or not. In this round of test, around 100 to 500 people will be given this vaccine. This phase is technically safe. but there might be some minor symptoms for the volunteers. If this Phase has been proven successful then the vaccine will be indeed effective to combat the virus

Phase 3 is the single-handely most important part of the human trial, it will test whether the vaccine is effective on all participants across all age-group, genders etc. In this phase of trial. around 5k - 20k people will be given the vaccine. The volunteers of this phase should be expecting 0 symptom.

after the human trial. the vaccine will enter licensing and manufacturing.

combine all the trial and licensing together, a vaccine would usually take around 9 or 10 years to complete.

Regarding the Russian vaccine. They have skipped both the phase 2 and phase 3 in their human trial. Which means the vaccine can cause some symptoms (minors only) and it is not proven to be effective.

Also from their official statements.

" The vaccinated individuals were able to pass the medical trials
without consequences. However, 31 volunteers suffered from the
vaccine's side-effects on the 42nd day of the vaccination. These
side-effects included pain, hyperthermia, swelling, and itching at the
body part where the drug was injected.   "



" Lack of energy or Physical weakness, fever, malaise, decreased
appetite, diarrhea, headaches, sore throat, nasal congestion, and runny
nose is included in the reported common manifestations. The medical
tests also revealed that the volunteers' antibodies dropped below the
average levels on the 42nd day of vaccination.  "





31 people are already experiencing side-effects at the 42nd day of vaccination. So yeah. If you wanna try this vaccine. Do it at your own risk (very high risk)
I'm not gonna get anywhere closer to this.

So what should you do now?
Like usual, always wear a mask in public. If you're already infected with the virus, CALL before you arrive at the hospital.

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俄罗斯疫苗?好吧,这是我的建议。 “远离任何国家/公司的任何所谓的Covid-19疫苗,至少要保留一年”



对于要生产和分发的疫苗,所有需要经历三个阶段。

临床前第一阶段
该阶段仅对人/动物细胞进行测试,以确定疫苗是否会对人体造成伤害


然后是人体试验阶段
此阶段可单独进行3个阶段的试用


第一阶段是测试疫苗是否会对实际人类造成伤害。在此阶段,大约30至50名志愿者/科学家自己将被接种该疫苗。这是人体试验中最危险的阶段,因为有0个保证可以使您活着完成这个测试。因此,为什么向所有志愿者支付巨额现金。


第二阶段是测试疫苗是否真正起作用。在这一轮测试中,大约有100至500人将接受这种疫苗。此阶段在技术上是安全的。但是对于志愿者来说可能会有一些轻微的症状。如果该阶段被证明是成功的,那么该疫苗将确实有效地对抗病毒


第三阶段是人体试验中单手最重要的部分,它将测试疫苗是否对所有年龄段,性别等所有参与者有效。在此试验阶段。大约有5k-20k的人会接种疫苗。此阶段的志愿者应该期望0症状。



经过人体试验。疫苗将进入许可和生产阶段。


结合所有的试验和许可,疫苗通常需要9到10年才能完成。



关于俄罗斯疫苗。他们在人体试验中跳过了阶段2和阶段3。这意味着该疫苗可引起某些症状(仅轻微),并且尚未证明是有效的。

也来自他们的官方声明。



接种疫苗的人能够通过医疗试验而不会造成任何后果。但是,在疫苗接种的第42天,有31名志愿者遭受了疫苗的副作用。这些副作用包括疼痛,体温过高,肿胀和身体瘙痒。注射药物的地方。”

缺乏能量或身体虚弱,发烧,全身乏力,食欲下降,腹泻,头痛,咽喉痛,鼻充血和流鼻涕是已报告的常见表现。医学测试还显示,志愿者的抗体降至低于平均水平接种后第42天的水平。”


在接种疫苗的第42天,已经有31人出现副作用。嗯是的。如果您想尝试这种疫苗。风险自负(风险很高)


我不会再接近这个了。

那你现在应该怎么办?
像往常一样,总是在公共场合戴口罩。如果您已经感染了病毒,请在到达医院之前致电


BAT 【新手级】

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2 以目前情況和資料來看,很可能只是場隨機測試。

匿名用户

匿名用户

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2、4

不相信俄罗斯、中国的生物技术水平。

等发达国家成熟了付费打。

匿名用户

匿名用户

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如果疫苗真的质量不错,那就证明这个病毒很有可能来自。。。所谓后面的只不过是一场大戏。别忘了普京大帝的出身。

芥末 【新手级】

4 这两个国家都不可信,还是等美国等

5.打个鬼哦被锁学校里又不会感染我

Jason_Fue 【熟练级】 - VPN enthusiastist

4、吧,实事求是,论生物技术水平,还是美德综合实力强。

fuckccp 【新手级】

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